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Timaeus (dialogue)

Dialogue by Plato

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The dramatic setting of the Timaeus is unusual for Plato's dialogues. Participants in the dialogue include Socrates, Timaeus, Hermocrates, and Critias. Socrates praises his three interlocutors as distinguished intellectuals. At the beginning of the dialogue, the absence of another, unnamed participant, who was present on the day before, is bemoaned. Timaeus gives the first long speech of the day, and occupies most of the eponymous work. The dialogue Critias follows it, as in a series, recounting the second long speech of the day. Scholars frequently speculate that Plato planned a third work, a Hermocrates. Since we have the Critias only in an unfinished form, it is thought that Plato never finished such a three-part work.

Introduction

The dialogue takes place the day after Socrates describes his ideal state. In Plato's works, such a discussion occurs in the Republic. Socrates feels that his description of the ideal state was insufficient for the purposes of entertainment, stating "I would be glad to hear some account of it engaging in transactions with other states" (19b).

Hermocrates wishes to oblige Socrates and mentions that Critias knows of an apt account (20b) to do so. Critias proceeds to tell the story of Solon's journey to Egypt where he hears the story of Atlantis, and how Athens used to be an ideal state that subsequently waged war against Atlantis (25a). Critias believes he is getting ahead of himself, and mentions that Timaeus will tell part of the account from the origin of the universe to man.

Critias cites the Egyptian priest in Sais on long-term factors regarding the fate of mankind:

There have been, and will be again, many destructions of mankind arising out of many causes; the greatest have been brought about by the agencies of fire and water, and other lesser ones by innumerable other causes. There is a story that even you [Greeks] have preserved, that once upon a time, Phaethon, the son of Helios, having yoked the steeds in his father's chariot, because he was not able to drive them in the path of his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt. Now this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving in the heavens around the earth, and a great conflagration of things upon the earth, which recurs after long intervals.

The history of Atlantis is postponed to Critias. The main content of the dialogue, the exposition by Timaeus, follows.

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